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Pissedoffvulcan
Posts : 4629 Join date : 2009-10-07
| Subject: Do not join the military. Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:41 pm | |
| Tell your friends and family if they are thinking about joining the military DO NOT DO IT. Obama the democrats and republicans have joined forces and decided to wage war on the military and retired veterans. Effectively all 3 have destroyed tricare.
In an effort to cut defense spending, the Obama Administration plans to cut health benefits for active duty and retired military personnel and their families while not touching the benefits enjoyed by unionized civilian defense workers.
The move, congressional aides suggested, is to force those individuals into Obamacare, Bill Gertz reported at the Washington Beacon.
Gertz added:
Not everybody is happy with the plan, however.
Military personnel would see their annual Tricare premiums increase anywhere from 30 – 78 percent in the first year, followed by sharply increased premiums “ranging from 94 percent to 345 percent—more than 3 times current levels.”
“According to congressional assessments, a retired Army colonel with a family currently paying $460 a year for health care will pay $2,048,” Gertz wrote.
Active duty military personnel would also see an increased cost for pharmaceuticals, and the incentive to use less expensive generic drugs would be gone.
Health benefits has long been a prime reason many stay in the military – but some in the Pentagon fear the new rules will hamper recruitment and retention.
“Would you stay with a car insurance company that raised your premiums by 345 percent in five years? Probably not,” one aide said.
John Hayward of Human Events adds:
Others are concerned about the double standard being set between uniformed military personnel – who are not unionized – and civilian defense workers who belong to public sector unions. | |
| | | Annoyed
Posts : 603 Join date : 2010-07-14 Location : The People's Republic of New York
| Subject: Re: Do not join the military. Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:45 pm | |
| Well, this one's a no-brainer. Most unions support the LSoS. Most active servicemen & women don't. | |
| | | Bandit
Posts : 1131 Join date : 2012-11-14
| Subject: Re: Do not join the military. Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:02 pm | |
| Seriously, who can afford to join the military?
Base pay is $1,516.20 a month before taxes. Subtract Federal, State and Social Security taxes and you'll have about $900-1,000 left. Subtract current premiums for Medical, Dental and life insurance (about $300 total) and you have $600-$700 left. On average, a $30,000 loan for 5 years will cost $500 a month, so there's the new car. And of course, you'll need whatever is left for the insurance. Now you're broke and will stay that way your entire first enlistment.
Now mind you, this is a single service member with no dependents. They live in the barracks, or on ship and own nothing but a car. Want to see how it is when I add a spouse, or worse a spouse and kid? | |
| | | Pissedoffvulcan
Posts : 4629 Join date : 2009-10-07
| Subject: Re: Do not join the military. Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:22 pm | |
| My youngest son is going to join however only for the education part. As soon as he gets his degree he is gone. | |
| | | Pissedoffvulcan
Posts : 4629 Join date : 2009-10-07
| Subject: Re: Do not join the military. Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:24 pm | |
| - Bandit wrote:
- Seriously, who can afford to join the military?
Base pay is $1,516.20 a month before taxes. Subtract Federal, State and Social Security taxes and you'll have about $900-1,000 left. Subtract current premiums for Medical, Dental and life insurance (about $300 total) and you have $600-$700 left. On average, a $30,000 loan for 5 years will cost $500 a month, so there's the new car. And of course, you'll need whatever is left for the insurance. Now you're broke and will stay that way your entire first enlistment.
Now mind you, this is a single service member with no dependents. They live in the barracks, or on ship and own nothing but a car. Want to see how it is when I add a spouse, or worse a spouse and kid? I remember when I was an E1 take home was 220 twice a month. Even with that I had more disposable money until I got married. Been broke ever since. | |
| | | Bandit
Posts : 1131 Join date : 2012-11-14
| Subject: Re: Do not join the military. Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:44 pm | |
| - Pissedoffvulcan wrote:
- My youngest son is going to join however only for the education part. As soon as he gets his degree he is gone.
Your son is going to get screwed. You know it, and I do. Once you sign your name, all promises not in writing will be broken. All those in writing, will have laws enacted making them void. Just in case you didn't know, Congress changed the law back in 2002. Now when you reenlist, it's to your retention control point. | |
| | | Pissedoffvulcan
Posts : 4629 Join date : 2009-10-07
| Subject: Re: Do not join the military. Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:08 pm | |
| - Bandit wrote:
- Pissedoffvulcan wrote:
- My youngest son is going to join however only for the education part. As soon as he gets his degree he is gone.
Your son is going to get screwed. You know it, and I do. Once you sign your name, all promises not in writing will be broken. All those in writing, will have laws enacted making them void.
Just in case you didn't know, Congress changed the law back in 2002. Now when you reenlist, it's to your retention control point. He is doing it for the GI bill. Besides they said they are going to fix it. We shall see the Senate has already written the bill. | |
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