I think I'm now a Kirk Cameron fan.

He was doing any interview with some British guy about a new movie he made when the interviewer went off topic and pressed him for his views of homosexuality and gay marriage. It was an obvious attack simply because Kirk identified himself to the guy as being Christian. Now Cameron is being attacked by everybody including other Hollywood people. Just watch how this interviewer pushed him to give the honesty answers that he knew would cause an uproar against Kirk.

But Kirk keep his cool and answered honestly and calmly even in the face of the interviewers bias and thinly veiled attacks. Cameron's quote, released after the video was made public, is truly great. It needs to be quoted every time a person is attacked for using their free speech rights to voice their religious views.

Quote :

I believe that freedom of speech and freedom of religion go hand-in-hand in America. I should be able to express moral views on social issues – especially those that have been the underpinning of Western civilization for 2,000 years – without being slandered, accused of hate speech and told from those who preach ‘tolerance’ that I need to either bend my beliefs to their moral standards or be silent when I’m in the public square.

I love he did not take the bait.

people were getting married long before modern religions existed. This is one of the views Paul has that i dont agree with, but in the end he said he wants to get rid of governments job of regulating marriage which is exactly what i want.

lol I'm now an AronRa fan.:) Here is one of his videos talking about Kirky boy here:)

https://youtu.be/QCNftnJZX1Y

That video is a bunch of poo.

Skycastle wrote:

Ok, so when did marriage come into existence?

Marriage began with Adam and Eve. Their beliefs and practices directly evolved into present day Judaism which makes it the original and oldest religion on the planet. And of course Christianity is Judaism plus the teachings of the savior the Jews awaited. Marriage was defined by God as one man and woman united forever, or even if you disbelieve in God, was defined by the original religion as such.

Yeah, that video is a pile of monkey crap, full of lies itself.

Eh I haven't researched much of it, care to point out some of its lies:D?

Pick one, pretty much everything he says is a fact is the exact opposite of the truth.

Darwinism and Nazi's for one good example. The Nazi's very strongly believed in Darwins Macroevolution and taught it exclusively in their schools. They used it as justification to eradicate "lessor" aka less evolved humans, like Jews. Yet this guy claims they didn't believe in Darwin at all and based their ideas on religion. That's poppycock. The Nazi's concept of the Übermensch aka Aryan race comes from the evolutionary concept that Aryans are the most evolved species of human, with Negroids on the bottom and the other races somewhere in between.

lol im not even gonna bother debating this. i havent watched much of Aron but he seems a lot more on then kirk cameron, to each there own:D

YawnGG wrote:

lol im not even gonna bother debating this. i havent watched much of Aron but he seems a lot more on then kirk cameron, to each there own:D

Not much to debate as far as Cameron vs. Aron since I have no idea what Kirk Cameron thinks on these issues, beyond what this guy claims Kirk believes. However, I did watch the video and every single thing this guy claimed was the truth, was the exact opposite.

I disagree with that but again i don't argue with zealots anymore:D

YawnGG wrote:

I disagree with that but again i don't argue with zealots anymore:D

Right... but you did come into this thread posting an anti Cameron video, which fell kind of flat since I, and I doubt any others here, actual know his views on anything other than the comments he made about homosexuality. And I have no idea who the other fellow the video maker talks about even is.

However, you did succeed in posting a complete nonsense video that completely lies about the Nazi's, Macroevolution, Darwinism, missing links, creationism, etc, etc... in short it appears to be nothing but a Christian bashing video, even going so far as to attribute the actions of atheists, ie Nazi's, to Christians.

You then refuse to debate the issue with "zealots". :roll: The biggest group of zealots in the world have to be Macroevolutionists. Since the time of Darwin they have been seeking proof of his theory, yet have found none. They have declared certain fossils to be the transitional form between ancient species and modern ones, then oops, found out that transitional species which supposedly died out millions of years ago is still alive! They have been caught over and over faking fossils to support their discredited theory, including gluing chicken feathers onto a lizard fossil. It must be hard to be so dedicated to a faith based on nothing but a desire to discredit other peoples faith.

The problem with atheist is they cannot have a civil debate. Look at Bull Maher. Most Christians can have a civil debate but both groups start slinging mud when they disagree.

What a world it would be if everyone respected everyone's opinion without tarding each other. That would be a true miracle.

I don't understand how you are supposed to have intelligent debate with people who believe in magic... they can just claim magic was used anywhere..

YawnGG wrote:

I don't understand how you are supposed to have intelligent debate with people who believe in magic... they can just claim magic was used anywhere..

Exactly. That's why I stopped debating Evolutionists. They claim fish magically turn into frogs, lizards magically turn into birds... doesn't matter they have found zero proof, have been disproven, have been caught faking results, etc they still firmly hold onto their fanatical religious beliefs that life just happens magically out of nowhere. Evolutionism is intrinsically an atheistic religion based on their desire at all costs to explain the origin of everything without a Creator. So, they say "It all happened by magic! But by god, God had nothing to do with it!!!"

just lol. we got us a creationist:D

and btw athiesm is the lack of blind faith.. theres no magic involved in evolution either.. you are funny ^_^

Pissedoffvulcan wrote:

The problem with atheist is they cannot have a civil debate. Look at Bull Maher. Most Christians can have a civil debate but both groups start slinging mud when they disagree.

What a world it would be if everyone respected everyone's opinion without tarding each other. That would be a true miracle.

Im a atheist. I think im pretty civil;)

YawnGG wrote:

lol I'm now an AronRa fan.:) Here is one of his videos talking about Kirky boy here:)

https://youtu.be/QCNftnJZX1Y

I have no doubt evolution has and is happening but I just dont like this guys negativity. His attitude just annoys me so much I gave him 4 minutes before stopping.

YawnGG wrote:

and btw athiesm is the lack of blind faith.. theres no magic involved in evolution either.. you are funny ^_^

No, Macroevolution is blind faith in the magic of Darwinism. Based on the belief that God doesn't exist, therefore I'll place all my faith in the idea that Darwins magical fairytale is real.

But seriously, your trolling of this post simply to bash Christians is old. You have no game, I've seen many others do a much better job of it then you do.

TRUE LIBERTY wrote:

Im a atheist. I think im pretty civil;)

TRUE LIBERTY, you are the extremely rare exception that proves the rule.

eber322 wrote:

TRUE LIBERTY wrote:

Im a atheist. I think im pretty civil;)

TRUE LIBERTY, you are the extremely rare exception that proves the rule.

I have respect for religion in this country and see no need to bash it to justify what I believe. I wish there was another name then atheist for us conservative atheists.

Hell you and I agree on far more then we disagree. Our biggest difference is in the fine details on how we get to what we both want in this country more then what we would like to see in a eventual outcome.