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Pissedoffvulcan

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PostSubject: Obama to subvert the constitution again.   Obama to subvert the constitution again. EmptySun Jul 03, 2011 8:30 pm

Sen. John Cornyn warned President Obama on Sunday to not even consider interpreting the Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment to bypass Congress and raise the debt limit without its approval.

"That's crazy talk. It's not acceptable for Congress and the president not to do their job and to say somehow the president has the authority then to basically do this by himself," Cornyn, R-Texas, a former judge on the Texas Supreme Court, told "Fox News Sunday."

The proposal that Obama re-interpret Section 4 of the Fourteenth Amendment to justify raising the $14.3 trillion debt limit has been gaining traction in Democratic circles since Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner told reporters that the Constitution's language could support the president's raising the limit without congressional approval.

'The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for the payments of pension and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion' -- this is the important thing -- 'shall not be questioned,' " Geithner read during a discussion hosted by Politico in May.

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., and others on Capitol Hill reportedly acknowledged that the idea is percolating, and had been presented to the president.

"It's certainly worth exploring. I think it needs a little more exploration and study," he said during a conference call with reporters held Friday.

Without addressing efforts to invoke the Constitution, Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., said Sunday the president and congressional negotiators shouldn't even be discussing a debt deal privately.

"Congress is the constitutional place for this to be decided," said Sessions, who is the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee.

Asked during a press conference Wednesday whether the debt limit was constitutional, the president glossed over the question, saying, "I'm not a Supreme Court justice, so I'm not going to put my constitutional law professor hat on here."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/03/cornyn-obama-bypassing-congress-on-debt-limit-is-crazy-talk/#ixzz1R5lHptwb
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PostSubject: Re: Obama to subvert the constitution again.   Obama to subvert the constitution again. EmptySun Jul 03, 2011 8:36 pm

Wow. No way does saying that the US must acknowledge it's legal debts constitute the power to take on more debt... if anything, I'd argue it means the opposite. By acknowledging that the US is in massive debt, we need to curtail spending.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama to subvert the constitution again.   Obama to subvert the constitution again. EmptySun Jul 03, 2011 9:59 pm

What is scary is the democrats that are going along with this.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama to subvert the constitution again.   Obama to subvert the constitution again. EmptyMon Jul 04, 2011 12:01 am

Not only does this not give the power to take on more debt, it certainly doesn't give that power to the president. The powers the president has are very clearly laid out.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama to subvert the constitution again.   Obama to subvert the constitution again. EmptyMon Jul 04, 2011 6:56 am

eber322 wrote:
Not only does this not give the power to take on more debt, it certainly doesn't give that power to the president. The powers the president has are very clearly laid out.
Not according to Obama. After all he did say the constitution is wrong or something like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama to subvert the constitution again.   Obama to subvert the constitution again. EmptyMon Jul 04, 2011 11:06 am

Pissedoffvulcan wrote:
Not according to Obama. After all he did say the constitution is wrong or something like that.

Of course he did. Unfortunately, most politicians on both sides are either completely against the Constitution or completely ignorant of it. That's why they violate it all the time. I seriously think we should kick every single politician out of Washington and hold new elections in each state for Senators and Congressmen. Then those elected people would make up the pool of prospective Presidential candidates for the big vote. We need to get rid of all current corrupt politicians and replace them. We also need to make them all honor their oaths to defend the Connie, they should have to include proof of Constitutionality with each bill or law. We also need to repeal all the Amendments that corrupted the existing Connie like the ones that allow anchor babies and non gold backed currency.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama to subvert the constitution again.   Obama to subvert the constitution again. EmptyMon Jul 04, 2011 11:58 am

eber322 wrote:
Pissedoffvulcan wrote:
Not according to Obama. After all he did say the constitution is wrong or something like that.

Of course he did. Unfortunately, most politicians on both sides are either completely against the Constitution or completely ignorant of it. That's why they violate it all the time. I seriously think we should kick every single politician out of Washington and hold new elections in each state for Senators and Congressmen. Then those elected people would make up the pool of prospective Presidential candidates for the big vote. We need to get rid of all current corrupt politicians and replace them. We also need to make them all honor their oaths to defend the Connie, they should have to include proof of Constitutionality with each bill or law. We also need to repeal all the Amendments that corrupted the existing Connie like the ones that allow anchor babies and non gold backed currency.
I have to agree. They should have put a thing in the constitution every 10 a complete redo.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama to subvert the constitution again.   Obama to subvert the constitution again. EmptyFri Jul 08, 2011 2:11 pm

The man has gotten away with a LOT of stuff. But no way no how can he do this one without a impeachment and it going to the supreme court. This is to public for him to try this one. So I kind of hope he tries it.
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