Obama pics which I like

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“I, my own damn self, am not a Tea Party supporter. I disagree with them on social liberties, our overseas wars, Obama's birthplace, Sarah Palin, and the conspicuous absence of tea at their rallies."
- Penn Jillette

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I never said he was a Tea Party supporter. I think he assumes that Tea Partiers all oppose drug legalization. Maybe (I don't know) most do, but I don't. I'm not a control freak, and as far as possible I believe in "live and let live." As far as I'm concerned "that government is best which governs least," and it should generally keep the hell out of our lives. I also don't know where most Tea Partiers stand on overseas wars, but I oppose them. As for Obama's birthplace, he presented a fake birth certificate to us after years of people demanding one, and why the hell would he do that? Anyway, I believe he was born in Kenya. Still, since his mom was born here and if he is an American citizen (this isn't confirmed) then he can be president. But my beef is that despite the requirement that any president be a natural born citizen, he never had to prove this in spite of many people who wanted proof. That's damn wrong, and shows government is NOT doing its job in screening presidential candidates.

As for the tea, we have that before coming to rallies. ;-)

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Skycastle wrote:: As for Obama's birthplace, he presented a fake birth certificate to us after years of people demanding one, and why the hell would he do that? Anyway, I believe he was born in Kenya.

You got any solid, irrefutable evidence of this. I'm guessing no, seeing hows he's been in office over four years now and congress hasn't challenged his eligibility once. You'd think that if the birthers were right the Republicans would have at least presented a solid case for it during the last election. The truth is, the longer the birther argument hangs around the more it looks like woo.

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ilaugh wrote:

Skycastle wrote:: As for Obama's birthplace, he presented a fake birth certificate to us after years of people demanding one, and why the hell would he do that? Anyway, I believe he was born in Kenya.

You got any solid, irrefutable evidence of this. I'm guessing no, seeing hows he's been in office over four years now and congress hasn't challenged his eligibility once. You'd think that if the birthers were right the Republicans would have at least presented a solid case for it during the last election. The truth is, the longer the birther argument hangs around the more it looks like woo.

Congress is utterly derelict in its duty, in case you haven't noticed. 80% of Americans think congress is doing a poor job, and they're right.

Kenya's Parliament Officially Claims Obama Born in Kenya.
http://silencedogoodscommonsense.blogspot.com/2011/02/kenyas-parliament-officially-claims.html

Also, in one of Obama's early books, before he became president, the intro claimed that he was a Kenyan. If I can find the info again I'll post it.

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Sunday Standard
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http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm

Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the
Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of
the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.

The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given
Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative.

Ryan’s campaign began to crumble on Monday following the release of
embarrassing records from his divorce. In the records, his ex-wife,
Boston Public actress Jeri Ryan, said her former husband took her to
kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans.

"It’s clear to me that a vigorous debate on the issues most likely could not take place if I remain in the race," Ryan, 44, said in a statement.
"What would take place, rather, is a brutal, scorched-earth
campaign – the kind of campaign that has turned off so many voters,
the kind of politics I refuse to play."

Although Ryan disputed the allegations, saying he and his wife went to one
‘avant-garde’ club in Paris and left because they felt
uncomfortable, lashed out at the media and said it was "truly
outrageous" that the Chicago Tribune got a judge to unseal the records.

The Republican choice will become an instant underdog in the campaign for the seat of retiring Republican Senator Peter Fitzgerald, since Obama held a wide lead even before the scandal broke.

"I feel for him actually," Obama told a Chicago TV station. "What he’s
gone through over the last three days I think is something you
wouldn’t wish on anybody."

The Republican state committee must now choose a replacement for Ryan, who had won in the primaries against seven contenders. Its task is complicated by the fact that Obama holds a comfortable lead in the polls and is widely
regarded as a rising Democratic star.

The chairwoman of the Illinois Republican Party, Judy Topinka, said at a news conference, after Ryan withdrew, that Republicans would probably take several weeks to settle on a new candidate.

"Obviously, this is a bad week for our party and our state," she said.

As recently as Thursday, spokesmen for the Ryan campaign still insisted that Ryan would remain in the race. Ryan had defended himself saying, "There’s no breaking of any laws. There’s no breaking of any marriage laws. There’s no
breaking of the Ten Commandments anywhere."

—AP

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From A to Z: What's wrong with Obama's birth Certificate?dence that president's document isn't
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[size=12][size=16]http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=296881

Posted:
May 13, 2011
12:15 am Eastern

WorldNetDaily

After years of stonewalling and fighting in court to keep his long-form birth certificate under wraps, President Barack Obama has publicized an image of the document he claims should resolve his birthplace once and for all.

But is it the real deal?

In his speech announcing the birth certificate's release, Obama quickly
tried to silence critical analysis of document:

"I know that there's going to be a segment of people for which, no
matter what we put out, this issue will not be put to rest, but I'm
speaking to the vast majority of the American people," Obama
said. "We do not have time for this kind of silliness."

But Joseph Farah, editor and chief executive officer of WND, the only
news agency that has waged a relentless investigative campaign on
questions swirling around Obama's constitutional eligibility, warns
those questions shouldn't be dismissed so quickly.

"The news media and the political establishment were quick to rush to
judgment regarding Obama's eligibility in 2008, without any basis,"
Farah said. "It would be a big mistake for everyone to jump to a
conclusion now based on the release of this document, which raises as
many questions as it answers."

Jerome
Corsi's new book, "Where's the Birth Certificate?," is now
available for immediate shipping, autographed by the author, only
from the WND Superstore.

Some of those questions have already been resolved – such as rumors WND
debunked claiming the name of the hospital on the document was
fictitious – while others present significant challenges to
accepting the birth certificate's validity.

But many questions still remain.

Perhaps most significant, two weeks before Obama finally released his
"long-form birth certificate," Hawaii's former Health
Department chief Chiyome Fukino – the one official who claimed to
have examined Obama's original birth document – was interviewed by
NBC News' national investigative correspondent Michael Isikoff, who
reported
that Fukino told him she had seen the original birth certificate
and that it was "half typed and half handwritten."

However, the document released by the White House was entirely typed. Only the
signatures and two dates at the very bottom were "handwritten."
What Fukino described is apparently a different document from what
Obama released to the public.

Further, a growing list of graphic artists and computer experts have examined
the online birth certificate and have concluded the image has been
altered.

For example, Karl Denninger, the former CEO of MCSNet, a Chicago
networking and Internet company, who also told WND he voted for
Obama, demonstrates "kerning" on the birth certificate, a lining up of
letters routinely done by computers but impossible on typewriters of
the 1960s, implying the document was computer generated, not photocopied.

Denninger explains that in the image above, of the name of the hospital, the
"a" and the "p" share vertical space on the line,
an example of "kerning," which only modern computers can do.

Denninger's work follows the opinion from another analyst, Ivan Zatkovich of Tampa-based eComp Consultants, which consults on intellectual property for
telecommunications, Web publishing and e-commerce. Zatkovich has 28
years experience in computer science and document management and for
more than 10 years has been an expert witness in federal court in
both criminal and civil litigation.

Zatkovich's analysis of layers in the PDF file, while dispelling some purported
anomalies on the document, nonetheless confirms others, leading him
to the conclusion, "The content clearly indicates that the
document was knowingly and explicitly edited and modified before it
was placed on the web."

And KJCT-TV of Grand Junction, Colo., reported
the opinion of graphic artist James Colby, who said, "There
is no doubt it has been edited and quite significantly."

Several other factors bring the birth document's authenticity into question:

The
objectivity of "experts" cited by the mainstream media to
verify the birth certificate is suspect, including that of Fox News
Channel's Jean-Claude Tremblay, who assured America they "should
not be suspicious" of the document, but who, WND discovered,
had heralded Obama's election victory in an online post.
Obama's posted birth certificate contains
the same anomalies as a well-known forgery that claimed he was
born in Kenya, suggesting the anomalous markings came from the same
source. "How could Obama's 'real' birth certificate share these
unique characteristics with an obvious forgery?" asks
Farah. "For the life of me, I can't figure out an answer
other than they were created by the same person or persons."
The birth certificate's reported delivering physician, Dr. David
Sinclair, differs from previously published reports and even the myth-busting
Snopes.com's original entry, which named Dr. Rodney T. West as the
doctor of record.
Obama's purported birth certificate contains
over a dozen differences in form from the verified, Hawaii copy
of the birth certificate issued to the Nordyke twins, born the next
day at the same reported hospital.
Another YouTube participant, 37, who identifies himself as orangegold1 and a computer image expert, posted a video trying to persuade watchers
that the White House either was ignorant in scanning and posting a
document, or was submarined by someone inside the walls who wanted
people to be suspicious of the document:

Obama Birth Certificate Faked In
Adobe Illustrator - Official Proof 1 ( Layers )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY&feature=player_embedded

His concerns rest with the layers that are in the document, and he
claimed some of the images on the document actually were added via
computer.

"I do this for a living," he said, adding that the document is
"obviously faked."

The local registrar listed in the Nordyke twins' birth certificate is
notably different than the local registrar on the Obama birth
certificate.

Though Obama was born before the Nordyke twins, and though his birth was
filed with the registrar three days before the twins' birth, Obama's
purported birth certificate has a higher
registration number.

The age of Obama's father, as listed on the document, conflicts
with previously discovered documents about Barack Obama Sr.
There are no notations on the document indicating Obama's adoption by his
Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, as are often made – even replacing the name of the birth parents – when a child in the U.S. is adopted.

In addition, the SmokingGun.com website notes several additional irregularities with the Obama birth certificate that do not appear on the Nordyke twin's birth
certificates:

In Box 3, "This Birth," there are two "Xs" above "Twin" and "Triplet" – why are these "Xs" here and what do they signify?

What is the meaning of the smudges in the Obama birth certificate in the
box containing the name of the attending physician?

What is the significance of the numbers, seen vertically, on the right
side of the Obama birth certificate?

Hawaii officials say they have Obama's original birth certificate and made
copies for the president. One of the copies then was scanned and
posted on the White House website.

But Denninger is among those who say there are still too many questions
to simply examine an online image.

He contends, "There's only one way we're going to get the truth
– a forensic document examiner is going to have to go look at the
certificate and authenticate it. The real one – not a printout."

The White House had trumpeted the release of the document, calling it
"proof positive" Obama was born in Hawaii, as if that would
answer all of the questions about his presidential eligibility.

But even if Obama's Hawaiian birth were proven and verified, many contend
the country's founders understood a "natural born Citizen"
– as listed by the Article 2, Section 1, of the U.S. Constitution
as a requirement to hold the office of president – to be a person
born of two American parents.

Barack Obama Sr., who is listed as the father, was not a U.S. citizen.

The president himself even seemed to acknowledge the relevance of
parental citizenship when he co-sponsored a resolution to address
Sen. John McCain's presidential eligibility that implied a "natural
born Citizen" must be born to "American citizen" parents.

"You may have thought Barack Obama ended the eligibility debate, and
certainly the birth certificate debate," said Farah, "with his release of what purports to be his long-awaited, long-form document.

"But it's not over," he added. "Not by a long shot."

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The Morphing Obama Biography and the Skeptics

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/the_morphing_obama_biography_and_the_skeptics.html

By Cindy Simpson

June 5, 2012

An odd taboo has been created on noticing that the president of the United States has a biography that can adapt itself to the needs of the moment. Go too far in raising an alarm, and be labeled "birther" and shunned in polite society.

The credit for creating the "birther" label was claimed in 2008 by columnist David Weigel:

I think I originally coined the term "Birthers" to describe
the people who think the state of Hawaii and its time travel machine
are concealing the truth about Obama's birth on the roof of a mosque
in Kenya. It's not just the reference to 9/11 "truthers"
that I like. It's the callback to the John Birch Society, id est the "Birchers."

Weigel was also the most notorious "JournoLister." In case you've forgotten about that left-wing media cabal, this Daily Caller article described the JournoList's coordinated efforts to bury the Jeremiah Wright story during the 2008 campaign. (Although JournoList was disbanded in 2010, the mainstream media, in remarkable unison, have covered up the recent revelation that Wright was bribed $150,000 to keep quiet.)

The sarcastic "birther" post was written by Weigel long before the Breitbart discovery of the literary agency biography that claimed Obama was born in Kenya. That portion of the biography's claims survived for
over 16 years through multiple other updates. Likely, many in the
circles of publishing, Chicago politics, and Obama's college and
early career days had heard or read about a Kenyan birth somewhere.
Which leaves open the possibility that Weigel and his fellow
JournoListers tripped over the story, or were slipped a tip, early in
the campaign, and chose to utilize Alinksy tactics in case such
tidbits oozed through any cracks in the preferred narrative.

The name-calling has been very effective. Even worse, the media uses the
birther label (as it often does with "Tea Partier") interchangeably with "racist."
Recently, Geraldo Rivera spent a full segment of his radio show to inform
listeners that the "obsession" with Obama's birth certificate is, "at its heart, a racial issue."

Since 2008, skeptics of Obama's biography of many stripes endeavored to set
the record straight and explain their quest, pursuing records and details of his life, including the long-form birth certificate and investigation into the "probable forgery" of the digital image posted by the White House.

Their adventures and the mystery surrounding Obama's history have created
such a complicated plotline that it seems the stuff of bad fiction
with an unbelievable conspiracy theme. But then recall JournoList
choreography, and details like Professor Ogletree's admission that he
hid the Obama/Bell tape during the election. Observe that whenever
interesting facts or questions are noted, the media steps in fast,
furiously, and perfectly timed to spin them into birther oblivion.
And see how quickly conservative pundits and Republican politicians
duck and run when the R-word is implied.

Want to see Obama's college transcripts? That's a hint at affirmative
action -- racist. Wonder whether he attended as a foreign student? That's birther.
Want to know more about Obama's religious beliefs and his relationship with Jeremiah Wright? Racist.
Note that experts assert that the posted birth certificate is a probable digital forgery, or wonder if the White House was playing games in presenting such a strange document? Birther.
Ask whether Obama wrote his autobiography? That's racist and birther.
Vote for the blank box instead of Obama in the Democratic primary?
Racist.
Note that Obama and his attorneys ignored a court-issued subpoena, an Obama attorney asserted in a courtroom that even Mickey Mouse didn't need to show a birth certificate to run for president, and that the media didn't cover any of it? How birther.

In the same segment that Rivera blasted "birthers" for being "racist," he interviewed Lord Christopher Monckton, who has openly acknowledged the birth certificate anomalies. In between snorts and laughter during Monckton's explanation, Rivera insinuated that Monckton and his forensic experts were "smoking
crack." And another of Rivera's guests, NYU professor Charlton McIlwain, implied that any questions of Obama's history and credentials were motivated by racism.

Journalists who pursue "facts and data," even while insisting they aren't wearing birther spectacles, are discovering that the mainstream media still depicts them as bottom-feeding "spawn," "aiding and abetting birtherism."

When the media finally did cover the agency biography story, they asserted
that it had been "discredited" and then used it to bash Romney. None dared touch the fact that the agency updated the original 1991 biography several times for changes in Obama's career over the 16 years, yet did not revise the "born in Kenya" part (or downgrade the job descriptions of his parents) until 2007, two months after
Obama announced his candidacy.

The biography story is radioactive: it addresses the taboo subject of Obama's birth, his life narrative, and his character and credentials, and /size][size=16] it illustrates the mainstream's utter lack of journalistic integrity.

And if the clicks on your mental Geiger-counter are tap-tapping rapidly
in agreement after reading that, you've been exposed to non-reversible birtherism radiation.

Skeptics, like business owners reviewing the job application of a prospective
employee, are not satisfied with the glossy media photo and indulgent
autobiography. They're also looking for the missing
link in Obama's evolution from a college radical, Jeremiah Wright
church member, and community organizer into a pragmatic moderate.

Obama responded to the questions with taunts -- in speeches, comedy
routines, and prayer breakfasts -- and his campaign profited by
selling birth-certificate-emblazoned t-shirts and mugs.

Some might argue that a little biography padding is expected, but redrawing family trees with a Cherokee branch or moving the birthplace to a more exotic location seems to work only in certain elite circles.

And the same newspaper that is still hiding the Khalidi tape has now added another new term to the lexicon --transcripters -- to describe people who want to investigate the "tomb-like silence around [Obama's] college years."

Obama's "blank screen" evolved along with his political career, and when
inconvenient facts got in the way, out came the media edits and
erasers. If anyone dares notice any missed spots or erasure smudges,
he is racist, birther, or distracted from the economy. And no one is
allowed to wonder if the chalkboard mess has anything to do with the
economic mess.

"Four years in office is what I call vetting," columnist Eugene
Robinson asserts. Others would call the four years a disaster.

Fretting over the media's ties of Romney to Trump (with his "discredited"
birther claims) but not Obama's to Sharpton, Breitbart's John Nolte wrote:

“These are the games the media intends to play throughout this campaign. This is all about getting Obama reelected with distractions,
guilty-by-association, and nonsense narratives that suck all the
oxygen away from any conversations surrounding Obama's failed
policies.”

The "birther" issue has not been "discredited" --
what has been discredited is the reliability and reputation of the
mainstream media. And the oxygen that Nolte worried about
getting sucked away has accumulated right next to the explosive truth
of the flimsy, morphing, media-supported Obama narrative.

If Watergate taught us that the cover-up is worse than the crime, the
current affair would be better-described by a word coined with the "-gate" suffix than by "-er." Involving more than a birth story, it reaches across the entire narrative. And this time, instead of the mainstream media doing the investigation and reporting, they're actually assisting in the construction and the cover-up.

So which is it: Birtherism or Narrative-gate? The answer depends on
which "field guide" you follow -- one written by the "Democrat-Media
Complex," or one that asks questions to lead to the truth.

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Partial transcript showing that the Obama birth certificate was a forgery:

Obama Lawyer Admits In Court Birth Certificate On White House Website Is A Forgery

http://www.fedupusa.org/2012/04/obama-lawyer-admits-in-court-birth-certificate-on-white-house-website-is-a-forgery/

The account of the trial can be read at:
http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/04/11/nj-ballot-access-challenge-hearing-update/

4-11-12

DAMAGE CONTROL: A recent ballot challenge hearing in New Jersey exposes
a desperate strategy by Obama to distance himself from his forged
certificate and induce the contrived value of his transient political
popularity as the only “legitimate qualification” needed to hold
the office of the presidency.

By Dan Crosby of THE DAILY PEN

NEW YORK, NY – After a Maricopa County law enforcement agency conducted a six-month forensic examination which determined that the image of Obama’s alleged 1961 Certificate of Live Birth posted to a government website in April, 2011 is a digital fabrication and that
it did not originate from a genuine paper document, arguments from an
Obama eligibility lawyer during a recent New Jersey ballot challenge
hearing reveals the image was not only a fabrication, but that it was
likely part of a contrived plot by counterfeiters to endow Obama with
mere political support while simultaneously making the image
intentionally appear absurd and, therefore, invalid as evidence
toward proving Obama’s ineligibility in a court of law.

Taking an audacious and shocking angle against the constitutional
eligibility mandate, Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that
the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the
absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to
confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. Therefore, she
argued, it is “irrelevant to his placement on the ballot”.

Hill went on to contort reasoning by implying that Obama needs only invoke his political popularity, not legal qualifications, in order to be a candidate.

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Sorry, Skycastle. All you've got amounts to hearsay, half truths, spin, and rumor. This accusation doesn't just count on a conspiratorial media, it counts on a government coverup on all levels, the State of Hawaii, and the hospital he was born in. Remember this is largely the same republican party that voted to impeach Clinton for the Lewinsky scandal. I just don't buy that they would sit on something like this. Especially considering it ultimately meant giving the man a second term. I just don't believe this conspiracy can possibly be true, it's just way too convoluted. Anyway, here are your counterarguments.

'Born in Kenya': Obama's Literary Agent Misidentified His Birthplace in 1991
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/born-kenya-obamas-literary-agent-misidentified-birthplace-1991/story?id=16372566

Claim: Lawyers representing Barack Obama admitted that his birth certificate is a forgery.
FALSE
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ineligible.asp

Birthers conspiracy theories debunked
http://www.thefogbow.com/

Claim: Barack Obama's birth is a forgery.
FALSE
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp

Joe Arpaio's New Birther "Evidence," as Usual, Was Debunked Months Ago
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2012/07/joe_arpaios_new_birther_eviden.php

Obama Birther Rumor Debunked As Literary Agent Clarifies Mistake
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/17/obama-birthers_n_1526222.html

Obama Conspiracy Theories
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/fact-checking-and-debunking/the-debunkers-guide-to-obama-conspiracy-theories/

Joe Arpaio Birther Probe Reveals Findings On Obama's 'Fraudulent' Birth Certificate
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/joe-arpaio-birther-probe-_n_1681428.html

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