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PostSubject: No sh-t Sherlock   No sh-t Sherlock EmptyThu Oct 17, 2013 9:02 am

You'd have to be pretty clueless not to have known this from the very start.

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Bombshell: White House planned shutdown

WASHINGTON — The shutdown was deliberately orchestrated by the White House, according to the former foreign editor of Newsweek and editor-in-chief of the New York Times Magazine.

Why would the White House intentionally cause such pain and havoc across the country?

It is a ploy to win votes, concluded author Ed Klein.

He told the New York Post that President Obama’s closest adviser, Valerie Jarrett, developed a strategy to force a showdown with Republicans over Obamcare.

Jarrett recommended shutting down government because, Klein said, she believed voters would pin the blame on Republicans.

And that would give Democrats the opportunity to win control of the House of Representatives in the 2014 midterm elections.

Klein wrote a critical biography about Obama last year called “The Amateur.” He said he interviewed more than a half dozen White House and former presidential advisers about the shutdown plan.

He called Jarret the “architect” of the strategy of refusing to negotiate with Republicans over Obamacare.

“She convinced the president that a government shutdown and default offered a great opportunity to demonize the Republicans and help the Democrats win back a majority in the House of Representatives in 2014,” he explained.

“Valerie also came with the idea of using the words ‘hostage,’ and ‘ransom’ and ‘terrorists’ against the Republicans,” Klein maintained.

He said Jarrett’s advice to Obama was, “[D]o not cooperate one iota on Obamacare. Don’t give an inch. Let the Republicans stew in their own juice.”

Klein added, “Republicans walked into a trap set up by Valerie Jarrett and President Obama.”

Smoking gun?

Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, believes there was evidence in plain view that the administration planned the shutdown in advance.

Gohmert told Fox News that on the eve of the shutdown, Sept. 30, the administration already had barricades and cones in place.

“They had worked out in advance they were closing these things down.”

The congressman said “that’s the only thing that explains” why the White House turned down their proposals and compromises.

‘The Night Stalker’

Klein said White House insiders call Jarrett the “The Night Stalker” because she is the only presidential aide who is allowed to spend much time in the family quarters.

“Everyone in the Beltway knew Valerie Jarrett was influential,” he said. “They didn’t know how influential she was.”

He quoted top Democratic insider Vernon Jordan, whose wife is a cousin of Jarrett, as saying, “Her power derived from one simple fact — proximity. No one except Michelle Obama is closer to the president than Valerie.”

The White House has not commented.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/bombshell-white-house-planned-shutdown/
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PostSubject: Re: No sh-t Sherlock   No sh-t Sherlock EmptyThu Oct 17, 2013 2:49 pm

That's all garbage. As I stated elsewhere on this board, yes, the Republicans in the house shut down the government, however, it was caused by the Democrats.

Blaming Obama, just lets the Democratic party off the hook. I, as a voter, do not buy it for a second. The Democratic party passed Obamacare, because they knew they had enough Republicans on board in the house. They are still at fault, because they KNEW what the response would be.

Also, as I stated on this board, I hold both parties responsible. This is Obama's last term. If he want's to be the scapegoat for his party, fine by me. I'm not gonna buy it.
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PostSubject: Re: No sh-t Sherlock   No sh-t Sherlock EmptyThu Oct 17, 2013 3:30 pm

That's just funny. The House offered a clean resolution back in July that the Senate was willing to pass but then reneged on it solely to fight the ACA. The Republicans in the House shut down the government over Obamacare, simple as that.
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PostSubject: Re: No sh-t Sherlock   No sh-t Sherlock EmptyFri Oct 18, 2013 8:28 pm

ilaugh wrote:
That's just funny. The House offered a clean resolution back in July that the Senate was willing to pass but then reneged on it solely to fight the ACA. The Republicans in the House shut down the government over Obamacare, simple as that.
No they didn't reneg what happened was they started getting phone calls. Then more phone calls came in. Republicans really had not choice.
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PostSubject: Re: No sh-t Sherlock   No sh-t Sherlock EmptyFri Oct 18, 2013 10:31 pm

Pissedoffvulcan wrote:
ilaugh wrote:
That's just funny. The House offered a clean resolution back in July that the Senate was willing to pass but then reneged on it solely to fight the ACA. The Republicans in the House shut down the government over Obamacare, simple as that.
No they didn't reneg what happened was they started getting phone calls. Then more phone calls came in. Republicans really had not choice.
yeah, they got a lot of calls from 501(c) groups and then reneged on their own CR.
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PostSubject: Re: No sh-t Sherlock   No sh-t Sherlock EmptySat Oct 19, 2013 3:09 pm

ilaugh wrote:
Pissedoffvulcan wrote:
ilaugh wrote:
That's just funny. The House offered a clean resolution back in July that the Senate was willing to pass but then reneged on it solely to fight the ACA. The Republicans in the House shut down the government over Obamacare, simple as that.
No they didn't reneg what happened was they started getting phone calls. Then more phone calls came in. Republicans really had not choice.
yeah, they got a lot of calls from 501(c) groups and then reneged on their own CR.
Nope they got calls from people who elected them to stop the ACTA.
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PostSubject: Re: No sh-t Sherlock   No sh-t Sherlock EmptySat Oct 19, 2013 4:38 pm

Food stamps had cut backs in Michigan thanks to no funding from the Feds. Something else everybody can thank Obama for.
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