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PostSubject: I really liked it.   I really liked it. EmptySun Sep 10, 2017 9:08 pm

That was less of a comedy than I thought it would be, yet still had some funny chuckles. I loved the scene with the dog licking his balls in the background, although I'd not have had the guys at helm point it out, might have been funnier to just play that straight. The effects and the sets were great, as was the alien makeup. They really got the Star Trek feel to the show. I'm looking forward to more.
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PostSubject: Re: I really liked it.   I really liked it. EmptyWed Sep 13, 2017 8:12 am

Ya liked it also. Thought it was well done. Not as stupid as I thought it was going to be. Thought they could have done a little better job with the ship. But the effects were good. The aliens were believable bad guys. I think the new Star Trek series just might be a flop. No one is going to pay for CBS all access just to watch it.
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PostSubject: Re: I really liked it.   I really liked it. EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 6:32 pm

I missed two episodes but just caught the last one, which disappointed me. Having two alien "guys" who were in a homosexual relationship was sickening. And their entire planet is queer. Ugh. Even more sickening, on their planet when girls are born they are surgically turned into boys - Barfff! I liked that the captain wanted to prevent the surgery, and if I had written the script he would have succeeded. But the writers here weren't so nice, and the operation was performed. It was a damn depressing episode.

Oh, and total nonsense is annoying as well. Alara, the thin girl of the crew, is from a planet with more gravity than earth, therefore she can reshape a titanium block with her hands? Pleeeeeease! At least try to make it somewhat believable.

I'm debating if the series is worth watching.
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PostSubject: Re: I really liked it.   I really liked it. EmptySat Sep 23, 2017 8:38 pm

Well, I really like the show and think it is very well done. The plot premises are taken straight from episodes of the various Trek series, tweaked a little and reimagined. The whole thing with the planet with only males isn't even valid. They claim all the species is male, with a now disclosed tiny percentage of females, yet the "males" lay eggs. If they can lay eggs, that means they are all really hermaphrodites. If they were really all males, the only natural way they could reproduce would be to split of a piece of themselves like amoebas.... or maybe by breeding with females of another species.

The whole thing with the baby was directly referencing the wacko people who perform 'transgender' operations or give hormones to their underage kids in order to turn them into the other sex. I think the fact they failed to save the baby from that fate is a reflection that this stuff is going on unchecked in the real world.

The idea of a species from a super gravity world being stronger and faster is not far fetched either. Image a species that lived on our moon, they would be much weaker than us, having at least 1/6th the strength we do. So a person who went there would be able to lift things much heavier then they could lift and run and jump faster and farther because of all the extra muscle mass. Now imagine a world where Earths gravity is only 1/6th of their gravity. They would be incredibly strong if they came to Earth. That said, any humanoid that was born and could function on a heavy gravity world be incredible short, squat, and bulging with muscle. Imagine taking Arnold in his prime and squishing his bones down to dwarf size while leaving all of his muscles intact. That's what a heavy world humanoid would actually look like, basically a ball of super dense muscle. But hey, I prefer looking at the cute little petite actress.

None of those explanations are to say you don't have a point. The whole reason of having a world of all males is so they can portray that as normal.... even though what might be natural and normal for an alien species has no bearing on what is natural and normal for humans. Same with the heavy worlder girl looking all petite and cute. That's to imply that girls are all just as capable as men in any role!!!! Hell, they even pointed out that comparing different alien species to each other isn't a valid comparison in the episode itself during the trial. Yet Star Trek and other scifi shows are replete with pulling this same stunt. They have no basis for those ridiculous premises in the real world so the fabricate them with fictional aliens. I just chuckle at their sorry delusions and enjoy the show for whatever else it offers.
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PostSubject: Re: I really liked it.   I really liked it. EmptySun Sep 24, 2017 9:23 am

eber322 wrote:
Well, I really like the show and think it is very well done. The plot premises are taken straight from episodes of the various Trek series, tweaked a little and reimagined. The whole thing with the planet with only males isn't even valid. They claim all the species is male, with a now disclosed tiny percentage of females, yet the "males" lay eggs. If they can lay eggs, that means they are all really hermaphrodites. If they were really all males, the only natural way they could reproduce would be to split of a piece of themselves like amoebas.... or maybe by breeding with females of another species.

The whole thing with the baby was directly referencing the wacko people who perform 'transgender' operations or give hormones to their underage kids in order to turn them into the other sex. I think the fact they failed to save the baby from that fate is a reflection that this stuff is going on unchecked in the real world.

The idea of a species from a super gravity world being stronger and faster is not far fetched either. Image a species that lived on our moon, they would be much weaker than us, having at least 1/6th the strength we do. So a person who went there would be able to lift things much heavier then they could lift and run and jump faster and farther because of all the extra muscle mass. Now imagine a world where Earths gravity is only 1/6th of their gravity. They would be incredibly strong if they came to Earth. That said, any humanoid that was born and could function on a heavy gravity world be incredible short, squat, and bulging with muscle. Imagine taking Arnold in his prime and squishing his bones down to dwarf size while leaving all of his muscles intact. That's what a heavy world humanoid would actually look like, basically a ball of super dense muscle. But hey, I prefer looking at the cute little petite actress.

None of those explanations are to say you don't have a point. The whole reason of having a world of all males is so they can portray that as normal.... even though what might be natural and normal for an alien species has no bearing on what is natural and normal for humans. Same with the heavy worlder girl looking all petite and cute. That's to imply that girls are all just as capable as men in any role!!!! Hell, they even pointed out that comparing different alien species to each other isn't a valid comparison in the episode itself during the trial. Yet Star Trek and other scifi shows are replete with pulling this same stunt. They have no basis for those ridiculous premises in the real world so the fabricate them with fictional aliens. I just chuckle at their sorry delusions and enjoy the show for whatever else it offers.
If you notice they never really say how they reproduce? How do they inseminate the egg?
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PostSubject: Re: I really liked it.   I really liked it. EmptySun Sep 24, 2017 1:28 pm

Pissedoffvulcan wrote:
If you notice they never really say how they reproduce? How do they inseminate the egg?

That's true. The only way I can see it function is if they are hermaphrodites. One of them has a egg which contains their half of the dna and the other fertilizes it through sex. Now, since they insist they are all males, you'd think they'd not have a vagina... so apparently the fertilization takes place through anal sex and the egg comes out the back door. But even if that was the case, it would simply mean the anus of this alien species functions as both birth canal and a waste disposal. So it really wouldn't be any different than how a vagina functions as both a birth canal and a liquid waste disposal. Basically, these aliens are not male, it simply wouldn't work unless they are both actually both sexes in one.

Oh I suppose one other way would be if they routinely and periodically expell an egg which contains no dna, then they both fertilize it directly. It would be kind of like how fish spawn except with both parents needing to fertilize an otherwise sterile egg. That would be an alien enough concept, but wouldn't make a lot of sense for a humanoid species that seems so similar to humans. It also wouldn't explain how he told the Captain he and his spouse where having a baby because he'd laid an egg. If it worked like this scenario all they'd need to do was not fertilize it to not have a baby. The way he informed the Captain implies it was already a viable egg when he laid it.


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PostSubject: Re: I really liked it.   I really liked it. EmptySun Sep 24, 2017 7:09 pm

Okay that is just gross. Remember this is PG.
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Okay that is just gross. Remember this is PG.

Ok, I didn't think I'd said anything that bad, but I cleaned up a couple of lines to make it more clinical sounding.
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PostSubject: Re: I really liked it.   I really liked it. EmptyTue Sep 26, 2017 4:52 pm

eber322 wrote:
The whole thing with the planet with only males isn't even valid.

The whole thing with the baby was directly referencing the wacko people who perform 'transgender' operations or give hormones to their underage kids in order to turn them into the other sex.

The idea of a species from a super gravity world being stronger and faster is not far fetched either. any humanoid that was born and could function on a heavy gravity world be incredible short, squat, and bulging with muscle. But hey, I prefer looking at the cute little petite actress.

[they] imply that girls are all just as capable as men in any role!!!! Yet Star Trek and other scifi shows are replete with pulling this same stunt. They have no basis for those ridiculous premises in the real world so the fabricate them with fictional aliens. I just chuckle at their sorry delusions and enjoy the show for whatever else it offers.

This series doesn't seem to care much about the how of things, or even whether something is valid or possible. It simply gives us impossible scenarios and expects us to accept them as valid. What is, is. Sure, the two alien “males” could be hermaphrodites, but that's not how they're portrayed. They look like males and refer to themselves as male. That bothers me. If they were intended to be hermaphrodites, they could easily have been given an androgynous look, and should refer to themselves as being androgynous - not male. The intent of their portrayal in this show is to attack/confuse our “earthly” definition of sexual normalcy, by portraying deviancy as normal on another planet. That's a subtle way of leading people to ask that if homosexuality is normal on another planet, why can't it be normal here? It attacks our idea of sexual normalcy, as I believe it intends to do. I don't like having aliens used to make sexual perversion seem normal. It's earth people who watch these shows, and the ideas presented to us through imagined alien worlds can be either good or bad for us. In this case, bad.

Maybe you're right about the transgender operation on the baby being meant to show us how wacko and wrong that is. I hope so.

Now, I understand that beings from a super gravity world would be much stronger than us. But as you wrote, they would look very different, being short and squat with huge muscles. Alara didn't look like that at all, yet she was supposedly from such a planet. That's pure nonsense posing as reality. Of course, like you I'd also rather look at a cute, petite girl than some short, super-muscle mass with arms. After all, the show is trying to retain an audience, and pretty girls always help. But to make things worse, Alara was supposedly able to squash a titanium block and reshape it into a ball, using only her bare hands. This is nonsense on an epic scale. No being from any super gravity world would be able to do that. Why not just have her lift and carry a 30-story office building to another part of town? Sure, we need some degree of suspension of disbelief to enjoy space/alien shows, but beyond a certain point it just becomes totally absurd. I want things to be somewhat believable.

You wrote: “Yet Star Trek and other scifi shows are replete with pulling this same stunt. They have no basis for those ridiculous premises in the real world so the fabricate them with fictional aliens. I just chuckle at their sorry delusions and enjoy the show for whatever else it offers.”
You're right there. But I don't like to help immoral shows become highly rated and accepted, and watching them can do that. If you get cable or satellite TV, the companies track viewage of each show. The more people who watch, the higher the ratings. I don't want to help immorality take hold in this nation, so I'm usually careful to avoid shows which promote that.

Definition of androgynous:
1 :having the characteristics or nature of both male and female
2 :neither specifically feminine nor masculine
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Skycastle wrote:
But I don't like to help immoral shows become highly rated and accepted, and watching them can do that.
Honestly, there are very few, if any, shows on tv anymore that aren't pushing immoral liberal agendas anymore. Makes me glad I don't have kids. If I did, I think I'd seriously consider not having live tv in the house. I know I'd not have interent in the house if I had kids.


Skycastle wrote:
If you get cable or satellite TV, the companies track viewage of each show.
Well, that depends. If you have cable without a cable box, then they can't track it. If you have Directv but don't connect your receiver to a phone line or the interent, like me, then they have no way to receive data from the unit. I've never used Dish, but would guess the same could be done with them.
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Cute pic, eber. :affraid: :suspect:
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Cute pic, eber. :affraid: :suspect:

Yeah I thought it was funny. 🤡
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PostSubject: Re: I really liked it.   I really liked it. EmptyFri Sep 29, 2017 3:10 pm

The Orville writers obviously hate people who don't approve of sexually deviancy. In the last episode, the FIRST scene was the two queers lying in bed together, and they talk about being mates (and not in the friendly Australian way). It's just so blatantly in-your-face; they have no shame or consideration for people with differing viewpoints whatsoever. As I wrote before, this show loves to attack sexual normalcy, and that's a big red flag for me. This episode also attacked "scripture" (although not Christian scripture) and pushed atheism, but that's what they intended. Indoctrination is a big part of this series, so I can't give it a thmbs up.

But I did like the ending.
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So now I have to catch up. Didn't record last week so now I have to watch on Fox website.
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