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PostSubject: Why all the hatred?   Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:36 am

Why all the hatred toward the movie American Sniper? I have not seen it yet plan on seeing it today. But from what I heard it was a great movie. From what trailers I have seen it has looked great.
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PostSubject: Re: Why all the hatred?   Sat Jan 31, 2015 11:37 am

I don't know a whole lot about the movie. All I do know that might explain it is that the guy who wrote the book this is based on was caught lying about stuff in his book.

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PostSubject: Re: Why all the hatred?   Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:14 am

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I don't know a whole lot about the movie. All I do know that might explain it is that the guy who wrote the book this is based on was caught lying about stuff in his book.
No it was Jesse Ventura the nut bag who said he never got into a fight with Chris Kyle. Seen the movie yesterday. Best portrayal of military I have seen in a movie to date.
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PostSubject: Re: Why all the hatred?   Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:20 am

Pissedoffvulcan wrote:
eber322 wrote:
I don't know a whole lot about the movie. All I do know that might explain it is that the guy who wrote the book this is based on was caught lying about stuff in his book.
No it was Jesse Ventura the nut bag who said he never got into a fight with Chris Kyle. Seen the movie yesterday. Best portrayal of military I have seen in a movie to date.

Well I guess that depends on who you believe. The author claimed that Ventura in 2006 said something along the lines that he was glad Navy Seals got killed in Iraq, and that he then proceeded to punch Ventura out. Ventura said that was lie, that he'd never meet the guy and he'd never said that. The courts found for Ventura and the publisher pulled that part of the book.

Since Ventura is himself retired Navy and a conservative, I doubt he'd say anything like that. Also this supposedly happened in a crowded military bar. With a celebrity like Ventura, former Governor and pro wrestler, this would have been everywhere back in 2006. Instead nobody ever heard of it until this guys book came out a couple years ago.

So yeah, I'd say the guy lied about the whole incident. And if he lied about that to make his book more interesting, he probably lied about and exaggerated a bunch of stuff in his book. All of that aside, liberal douches like Michael Moore who actually are glad when our military get killed, will hate this movie because it doesn't portray our military negatively.

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PostSubject: Re: Why all the hatred?   Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:35 am

Differing opinions on the morals and ethics involved in being a Sniper, and using them.
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PostSubject: Re: Why all the hatred?   Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:04 am

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Differing opinions on the morals and ethics involved in being a Sniper, and using them.

Yes, but more than that is a lot of liberals hate the military and everybody who ever served period.

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PostSubject: Re: Why all the hatred?   Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:43 pm

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Yes, but more than that is a lot of liberals hate the military and everybody who ever served period.

That has nothing to do with the question Vulcan asked. He specified Snipers, not the military in general. There are more conservatives that decry the use of Snipers, than any other political group. But regardless of political affiliation, the moral and ethical debate is as old as the sniper themselves, and understood by most.
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PostSubject: Re: Why all the hatred?   Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:51 pm

Pissedoffvulcan wrote:
eber322 wrote:
I don't know a whole lot about the movie. All I do know that might explain it is that the guy who wrote the book this is based on was caught lying about stuff in his book.
No it was Jesse Ventura the nut bag who said he never got into a fight with Chris Kyle. Seen the movie yesterday. Best portrayal of military I have seen in a movie to date.
Which explains any hatred. It's not polite to portray our military in a positive light.
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PostSubject: Re: Why all the hatred?   Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:05 pm

eber322 wrote:
Pissedoffvulcan wrote:
eber322 wrote:
I don't know a whole lot about the movie. All I do know that might explain it is that the guy who wrote the book this is based on was caught lying about stuff in his book.
No it was Jesse Ventura the nut bag who said he never got into a fight with Chris Kyle. Seen the movie yesterday. Best portrayal of military I have seen in a movie to date.

Well I guess that depends on who you believe. The author claimed that Ventura in 2006 said something along the lines that he was glad Navy Seals got killed in Iraq, and that he then proceeded to punch Ventura out. Ventura said that was lie, that he'd never meet the guy and he'd never said that. The courts found for Ventura and the publisher pulled that part of the book.

Since Ventura is himself retired Navy and a conservative, I doubt he'd say anything like that. Also this supposedly happened in a crowded military bar. With a celebrity like Ventura, former Governor and pro wrestler, this would have been everywhere back in 2006. Instead nobody ever heard of it until this guys book came out a couple years ago.

So yeah, I'd say the guy lied about the whole incident.  And if he lied about that to make his book more interesting, he probably lied about and exaggerated a bunch of stuff in his book. All of that aside, liberal douches like Michael Moore who actually are glad when our military get killed, will hate this movie because it doesn't portray our military negatively.
Ventura is not a conservative. I do not know what he is but he has changed since he was governor. But Ventura went to court after Kyle was killed but still the movie was great and that was the only incident.
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PostSubject: Re: Why all the hatred?   Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:07 pm

Bandit wrote:
eber322 wrote:

Yes, but more than that is a lot of liberals hate the military and everybody who ever served period.

That has nothing to do with the question Vulcan asked. He specified Snipers, not the military in general. There are more conservatives that decry the use of Snipers, than any other political group. But regardless of political affiliation, the moral and ethical debate is as old as the sniper themselves, and understood by most.
Snipers are a vital part of the military just like Jets tanks and the ground pounder. We all know that.
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PostSubject: Re: Why all the hatred?   Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:27 pm

Bandit wrote:
eber322 wrote:

Yes, but more than that is a lot of liberals hate the military and everybody who ever served period.

That has nothing to do with the question Vulcan asked. He specified Snipers, not the military in general.

Of course it has to do with what he asked...
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Why all the hatred toward the movie American Sniper?
He asked why they don't like this particular movie. The fact that it is a military movie and people hate the military has everything to do with what he asked.

What next, you gonna ask me if I've ever attended a State college then tell me that has no bearing to what you were asking when I tell you I have two degrees from a State college? Oh yeah, you already did that. scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Why all the hatred?   Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:25 pm

So I went seen the movie Sat. I now know why they hate it. Because they portray the brutality of radical Islam. If you want to see what we are up against watch the movie. That is why the left hates it.
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PostSubject: Re: Why all the hatred?   Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:37 pm

Pissedoffvulcan wrote:
So I went seen the movie Sat. I now know why they hate it. Because they portray the brutality of radical Islam. If you want to see what we are up against watch the movie. That is why the left hates it.

That definitely explains it. I plan on seeing it, but it won't be until it comes out on dvd.

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