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PostSubject: Education doesn't Cost - It pays   Thu Jan 22, 2015 7:56 am

A productive, efficient educational system is not a cost, its an investment.

Throughout the history of our nation it has been the access to education that has acted to unite us as a nation, while creating opportunities. Our public schools haves proved to be the creator of democracy in action. As public education succeeds, our economy flourishes, united and unites us in shared prosperity. As public education falters, economic mobility stagnates and income inequality gaps widen.

In the past 50 years American education has fallen behind and what was once the envy of the world, now wallows in a morass of mediocrity. The lessons that we once taught the world, are now either ignored or lost, as teachers have become the villians of a politically dominated battle for the direction of education in America.

As the rest of the world has applied knowledge gained mainly by our educational research, we have basically ignored, rejected, or simply not applied the necessary resources. The result has been a fifty year slide in the position of our children in comparison to the rest of the world.

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PostSubject: Re: Education doesn't Cost - It pays   Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:38 am

The public education system in this country as it stands today is a joke. It would be more accurately referred to as the public indoctrination system.
In many areas, the system is owned and operated by and for the benefit if the public employee unions, the needs of the children are secondary.

Until the system is fixed, I cannot support spending any more taxpayer dollars on education. We are wasting most of what we are spending already.
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PostSubject: Re: Education doesn't Cost - It pays   Thu Jan 22, 2015 12:06 pm

The public education system is joke because it has been taking over by the fed and run by liberal progressives. What we need is to return to teaching the basics and forget all the brainwashing indoctrination that takes up most of the classroom time.

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PostSubject: Re: Education doesn't Cost - It pays   Thu Jan 22, 2015 5:18 pm

The entire country could take a lesson from Wisconson and its education reforms. Gov. Scott Walker has the right idea. Start by breaking the public employee unions. That single step is the most effective change to education that I have seen in more than 30 years. Even better is that the voters reaffirmed his actions, turning back a recall attempt at the polls.
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PostSubject: Re: Education doesn't Cost - It pays   Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:25 pm

SmilingReaper wrote:
A productive, efficient educational system is not a cost, its an investment.

Throughout the history of our nation it has been the access to education that has acted to unite us as a nation, while creating opportunities.  Our public schools haves proved to be the creator of democracy in action. As public education succeeds, our economy flourishes, united and unites us in shared prosperity. As public education falters, economic mobility stagnates and income inequality gaps widen.

In the past 50 years American education has fallen behind and what was once the envy of the world, now wallows in a morass of mediocrity. The lessons that we once taught the world, are now either ignored or lost, as teachers have become the villians of a politically dominated battle for the direction of education in America.

As the rest of the world has applied knowledge gained mainly by our educational research, we have basically ignored, rejected, or simply not applied the necessary resources. The result has been a fifty year slide in the position of our children in comparison to the rest of the world.

The question what has changed? Money maybe however private schools teach far better and only get about 60 to 70 percent per student of what government school gets? It is not vilifying teachers. But you cannot solve the problem until you acknowledge the truth. Unions protect bad teachers. That is not saying all teachers are bad. But when one teacher is bad it is near impossible to fire them. We should demand our teachers are the best.

It is like this. Take the Patriots and the deflating of the balls. If we held government to the same standards as we do sports teams and cheating half the politicians would not be in Washington. Same with teachers if they cannot teach can them. In business if you have an employee who is not producing you can them.

Both parties want the same thing. So why can't we agree on how to get there?
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PostSubject: Re: Education doesn't Cost - It pays   Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:12 pm

The weight of education's mediocrity lies firmly on the shoulders of the NEA
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PostSubject: Re: Education doesn't Cost - It pays   Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:09 pm

Just to provide an example.
Back in the eighties, the local teachers union conned the district into 40% (I think, might have been higher) across the board raises with guaranteed future raises and such. A real gold mine, on taxpayer's dime. The bill of sale said that the money was needed to attract and keep the best teachers to pull the city's schools out of the tailspin they were in.

As of last July, the city had the lowest graduation rate in the state (and I'm in a very populous state), a dismal 43%.

Yeah, that 40% raise did a lot for the schools, didn't it?
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